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	<title>Comments on: Dear BMWK, I&#8217;m Caught In The Middle of Becoming a Thug or a Nice Guy</title>
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		<title>By: Jay'O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay'O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harriet wrote:

"I work on a college campus (an HBCU at that), and I’ve seen this pattern a million times: " and...
"girl takes boy for granted, breaks his heart, boy uses that as an excuse to either A) go the homosexual route or B) go the thug/playa/pimp/misogynist route."

What the hell have you been smoking???  You say you've seen young men who are obviously straight and heterosexual turn gay because they didn't have success with a girlfirend???????

Hey - why don't you wake up and come into the 21st century - somebody doesn't become gay because they break up with a girl! People that are gay are gay and those that are straight (and go with girls and therefore have the opportunity to get dumped by girls) are just that: straight!  You act like being Gay is a conscience decision a guy makes when he's mad at women.  With all the hate in the world why would any sane brother WANT TO BE GAY???  Obviosuly they are who they are and don't just become gay on a whim like this so they can be hated by their families, friends, and strangers like you.

Your incredible ignorance makes me think you probably do work at a college (HBCU) but as the crazy old cafeteria lady!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harriet wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;I work on a college campus (an HBCU at that), and I’ve seen this pattern a million times: &#8221; and&#8230;<br />
&#8220;girl takes boy for granted, breaks his heart, boy uses that as an excuse to either A) go the homosexual route or B) go the thug/playa/pimp/misogynist route.&#8221;</p>
<p>What the hell have you been smoking???  You say you&#8217;ve seen young men who are obviously straight and heterosexual turn gay because they didn&#8217;t have success with a girlfirend???????</p>
<p>Hey - why don&#8217;t you wake up and come into the 21st century - somebody doesn&#8217;t become gay because they break up with a girl! People that are gay are gay and those that are straight (and go with girls and therefore have the opportunity to get dumped by girls) are just that: straight!  You act like being Gay is a conscience decision a guy makes when he&#8217;s mad at women.  With all the hate in the world why would any sane brother WANT TO BE GAY???  Obviosuly they are who they are and don&#8217;t just become gay on a whim like this so they can be hated by their families, friends, and strangers like you.</p>
<p>Your incredible ignorance makes me think you probably do work at a college (HBCU) but as the crazy old cafeteria lady!</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww!  That's so good to hear, Joe!  I'm glad your niece can see the better you now!  Congrats!

You're right...there's no need to be judgmental.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww!  That&#8217;s so good to hear, Joe!  I&#8217;m glad your niece can see the better you now!  Congrats!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right&#8230;there&#8217;s no need to be judgmental.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. I had a great christmas and new years!

The link helped me out a lot. Even though it's wrong to flirt with someone and have no intentions to be with them, it's also wrong to judge people as well. By me saying that women who have kids or are married should not flirt is just judgemental. I mean I really don't know their situation. Before I get all judgemental and all, I should look a little closer at the person.


P.S. My niece loves the old me again!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. I had a great christmas and new years!</p>
<p>The link helped me out a lot. Even though it&#8217;s wrong to flirt with someone and have no intentions to be with them, it&#8217;s also wrong to judge people as well. By me saying that women who have kids or are married should not flirt is just judgemental. I mean I really don&#8217;t know their situation. Before I get all judgemental and all, I should look a little closer at the person.</p>
<p>P.S. My niece loves the old me again!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 22:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again, Joe.

I hate to tell you this, but what you described is not just a college phenomena. Unfortunately, it's like that everywhere. You can read more about it under the BMWK article, "Flirting:  Is it harmless or disrespectful?"

Here's the link:  http://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/2008/12/19/bmwk-anniversary-classic-flirting-is-it-harmless-or-disrespectful/

It's good to hear from you again!  Hope you had a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and a focused attitude towards your studies this semester!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again, Joe.</p>
<p>I hate to tell you this, but what you described is not just a college phenomena. Unfortunately, it&#8217;s like that everywhere. You can read more about it under the BMWK article, &#8220;Flirting:  Is it harmless or disrespectful?&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link:  <a href="http://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/2008/12/19/bmwk-anniversary-classic-flirting-is-it-harmless-or-disrespectful/" rel="nofollow">http://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/2008/12/19/bmwk-anniversary-classic-flirting-is-it-harmless-or-disrespectful/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to hear from you again!  Hope you had a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and a focused attitude towards your studies this semester!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey it's me again, but this time I have a question.

With me being in college and all I've noticed that there's a wide variety of women. The thing that I want to know is why aren't women up front about their status? Some women are married, some have kids and some have boy-friends. Yet they flirt with men like their interested. In my opinion women in these categorys have no business flirting with men. Thus the guy who the woman are flirting with gets hurt.

Can we please be a little more up front with people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey it&#8217;s me again, but this time I have a question.</p>
<p>With me being in college and all I&#8217;ve noticed that there&#8217;s a wide variety of women. The thing that I want to know is why aren&#8217;t women up front about their status? Some women are married, some have kids and some have boy-friends. Yet they flirt with men like their interested. In my opinion women in these categorys have no business flirting with men. Thus the guy who the woman are flirting with gets hurt.</p>
<p>Can we please be a little more up front with people?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey it's me again, but this time I would like to say something to the fellas. If any men out there have been through or are going through what I been through I would like to say this. Forget about the girl/woman for the moment. Look in the mirror mentally not physically and ask yourself do you like what you see. Do you really like being a thug?

What I learned is that instead of me trying to be a thug, I was really bringing myself down to her level. Thus making it harder to get over a girl/woman. As men, do we want to give up who we are to a woman who don't appreciate us?

That's just a thought to ponder on when you know you've been the best person you can be in a relationship. 

You don't have to be a thug.

Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey it&#8217;s me again, but this time I would like to say something to the fellas. If any men out there have been through or are going through what I been through I would like to say this. Forget about the girl/woman for the moment. Look in the mirror mentally not physically and ask yourself do you like what you see. Do you really like being a thug?</p>
<p>What I learned is that instead of me trying to be a thug, I was really bringing myself down to her level. Thus making it harder to get over a girl/woman. As men, do we want to give up who we are to a woman who don&#8217;t appreciate us?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a thought to ponder on when you know you&#8217;ve been the best person you can be in a relationship. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a thug.</p>
<p>Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Applause*

Joe, you get a standing ovation in my book.  You have officially gone from a G to a Gent in one week flat.  Congrats on responding to the ugly things of life in a mature manner.  I think the new year brought a healthy change to your life.

Thanks for the update!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Applause*</p>
<p>Joe, you get a standing ovation in my book.  You have officially gone from a G to a Gent in one week flat.  Congrats on responding to the ugly things of life in a mature manner.  I think the new year brought a healthy change to your life.</p>
<p>Thanks for the update!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, lately I've been going through some positve changes. Right now I'm working on trying to bring back the old Joe. I don't dog out women as much as I use to, but it's still a working progress. Also I've tried not to listen to a lot of rap music that degrade women in any way shape or form. I even got rid of my dreads and got a nice simple hair cut.

On New Years eve night instead of partying out with friends, I went to church. I gotta admit it feels good to be the old Joe again. I'm just trying to think postive instead of negative. And if a woman can't accept a man like me for me, well it's her lost not mine.

A maturer and wiser Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, lately I&#8217;ve been going through some positve changes. Right now I&#8217;m working on trying to bring back the old Joe. I don&#8217;t dog out women as much as I use to, but it&#8217;s still a working progress. Also I&#8217;ve tried not to listen to a lot of rap music that degrade women in any way shape or form. I even got rid of my dreads and got a nice simple hair cut.</p>
<p>On New Years eve night instead of partying out with friends, I went to church. I gotta admit it feels good to be the old Joe again. I&#8217;m just trying to think postive instead of negative. And if a woman can&#8217;t accept a man like me for me, well it&#8217;s her lost not mine.</p>
<p>A maturer and wiser Joe.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Nimous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Nimous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Soldier's Mom,

Ummm, where to begin...oh, I know:

You are hearby banned from giving advice until you get your act together! She's on him like a pit bull because he "seeks the company of women who admire him?"  Can you sound any crazier?!? She's on him like a pitbull because he's a CHEATER! She won't let him live it down because HE'S STILL CHEATING! Are you their couples therapist? If not, you only have his word to go on - and he's already demonstrated his moral fiber to you. 

If she's that much of a witch then he can always divorce her. Unless of course, he is afraid of child support/alimony. And depending on where you live that alimony may be increased because of his infidelity. What a gem you've decided to lay down with. Your kids must be super proud.

You have children who look up to you - stop showing them how NOT to do things and find your self respect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Soldier&#8217;s Mom,</p>
<p>Ummm, where to begin&#8230;oh, I know:</p>
<p>You are hearby banned from giving advice until you get your act together! She&#8217;s on him like a pit bull because he &#8220;seeks the company of women who admire him?&#8221;  Can you sound any crazier?!? She&#8217;s on him like a pitbull because he&#8217;s a CHEATER! She won&#8217;t let him live it down because HE&#8217;S STILL CHEATING! Are you their couples therapist? If not, you only have his word to go on - and he&#8217;s already demonstrated his moral fiber to you. </p>
<p>If she&#8217;s that much of a witch then he can always divorce her. Unless of course, he is afraid of child support/alimony. And depending on where you live that alimony may be increased because of his infidelity. What a gem you&#8217;ve decided to lay down with. Your kids must be super proud.</p>
<p>You have children who look up to you - stop showing them how NOT to do things and find your self respect!</p>
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		<title>By: SoldiersMom</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoldiersMom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe; 
I am the "Other Woman" for a married African American general surgeon &amp; trauma surgeon, father of four.    It is not a cute situation.   He married an up-&amp;-coming girl from his neighbohood,  a little family money, a little older &amp; heavier, but hey she was light-skinned &amp; all that.  Four beautiful children.   
    Thing is, she has no respect for him.    All this time he has provided for her &amp; their children, but he ain't sh*t because he has strayed from the straight &amp; narrow occasionally.  She's on it like a pit-bull, won't ever let him live it down--  what a dog he is to seek the company of women who admire him, rather than those like her, who dis him.  He  just wants  his due respect for the part he plays  saving lives in the community. 
    This is the advice I give to my own kids:  Reach your own goals.   Then, when you have arrived at your goal in life, take you a spouse who seems genuine, &amp; who has a passion for you.   I don't tell them to live like a bachelor all their young years;  just use protection.    Marry when you have achieved your personal goals;  else you will marry  beneath you.  
    For myself, I don't know the future.    I may die;  I may live in agony; I may right myself with the help of other folks.   
    See, everyone has young loves, &amp; it's no shame.    Just don't make it legal, &amp; for God sake, don't make it biological.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe;<br />
I am the &#8220;Other Woman&#8221; for a married African American general surgeon &amp; trauma surgeon, father of four.    It is not a cute situation.   He married an up-&amp;-coming girl from his neighbohood,  a little family money, a little older &amp; heavier, but hey she was light-skinned &amp; all that.  Four beautiful children.<br />
    Thing is, she has no respect for him.    All this time he has provided for her &amp; their children, but he ain&#8217;t sh*t because he has strayed from the straight &amp; narrow occasionally.  She&#8217;s on it like a pit-bull, won&#8217;t ever let him live it down&#8211;  what a dog he is to seek the company of women who admire him, rather than those like her, who dis him.  He  just wants  his due respect for the part he plays  saving lives in the community.<br />
    This is the advice I give to my own kids:  Reach your own goals.   Then, when you have arrived at your goal in life, take you a spouse who seems genuine, &amp; who has a passion for you.   I don&#8217;t tell them to live like a bachelor all their young years;  just use protection.    Marry when you have achieved your personal goals;  else you will marry  beneath you.<br />
    For myself, I don&#8217;t know the future.    I may die;  I may live in agony; I may right myself with the help of other folks.<br />
    See, everyone has young loves, &amp; it&#8217;s no shame.    Just don&#8217;t make it legal, &amp; for God sake, don&#8217;t make it biological.</p>
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