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		<title>By: Mrcseriousbusinessonly</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of you are trying to qualify Hagee&#039;s statements by saying &#039;if the Stay at Home Dad just sat on his rear end&#039;... but what if the Stay at home Mom did that? Would she go to Hell according to Hagee?  He is wrong on this.  This is his opinion, that men should work and the woman stay home. That does not make it a Biblical doctrine to enforce.  Even Paul made a distinction between one of his opinions and God&#039;s word, when talking about not getting married to live fully for God.   In Hagee&#039;s defense though, he talks alot.  Years of televised &amp; recorded messages, eventually with your mouth open that often you are going to say a bit of bullcrap... lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of you are trying to qualify Hagee&#8217;s statements by saying &#8216;if the Stay at Home Dad just sat on his rear end&#8217;&#8230; but what if the Stay at home Mom did that? Would she go to Hell according to Hagee?  He is wrong on this.  This is his opinion, that men should work and the woman stay home. That does not make it a Biblical doctrine to enforce.  Even Paul made a distinction between one of his opinions and God&#8217;s word, when talking about not getting married to live fully for God.   In Hagee&#8217;s defense though, he talks alot.  Years of televised &amp; recorded messages, eventually with your mouth open that often you are going to say a bit of bullcrap&#8230; lol</p>
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		<title>By: Sweetpee</title>
		<link>http://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/2009/03/04/stay-at-home-dads-are-going-to-hell/comment-page-1#comment-14850</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweetpee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like Past Hagee should be careful what he says to the people of the world today.  He as well as other preachers/prophets are being watched closely in this day and time by God.  Hagee probably is getting his opionion on what the bible says, that if a man don&#039;t work he don&#039;t eat.  But that can be viewed in many ways.  A wife is call a help meet for a man (husband), now if she is out working and the husband is helping with the kids that is team work.  Not to mention that the woman is helping her husband by bring home the income.  The man is working because being a parent full time is a job within itself.  

Hagee can not relate to a lot of things because I feel like he has not been through somethings to understand.  The husband might have lost his job and he has to step to the plate and be a stay at home dad;while the wife works.  Of maybe it was a netural decision, either any man who is man enough to be a father and take on the nuturing role; I ask that God bless him because he will have caring and sharing moments with his children that will be dear to him as they grow.  Not to mention that way he know what the wife goes through while he&#039;s at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like Past Hagee should be careful what he says to the people of the world today.  He as well as other preachers/prophets are being watched closely in this day and time by God.  Hagee probably is getting his opionion on what the bible says, that if a man don&#8217;t work he don&#8217;t eat.  But that can be viewed in many ways.  A wife is call a help meet for a man (husband), now if she is out working and the husband is helping with the kids that is team work.  Not to mention that the woman is helping her husband by bring home the income.  The man is working because being a parent full time is a job within itself.  </p>
<p>Hagee can not relate to a lot of things because I feel like he has not been through somethings to understand.  The husband might have lost his job and he has to step to the plate and be a stay at home dad;while the wife works.  Of maybe it was a netural decision, either any man who is man enough to be a father and take on the nuturing role; I ask that God bless him because he will have caring and sharing moments with his children that will be dear to him as they grow.  Not to mention that way he know what the wife goes through while he&#8217;s at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Rima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love your comment Thomas! and to those crazy pastors.. i dunno, you&#039;re just crazy haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love your comment Thomas! and to those crazy pastors.. i dunno, you&#8217;re just crazy haha</p>
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		<title>By: Rites Inc.</title>
		<link>http://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/2009/03/04/stay-at-home-dads-are-going-to-hell/comment-page-1#comment-11980</link>
		<dc:creator>Rites Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an age when technology makes the impossible possible and the home the new office—dads that are working stay-at-home dads actually are benefitting their families. Just like when mom works in the home and is able to tend to the house and children throughout the day; the same holds true for dad.

For years I tried to get my employers to give me the flexibility to work from home at least two days a week (never happened) but my idea was: less stress, less money spent on gas, more productivity AND I could place a load of laundry in the wash and be home when my son got in from school (instead of coming home to an empty house).

Hagee’s statement about the scripture that says “worse than an infidel” is in the context of one that is able-bodied but refuses to work. A fuller contextual examination of those scriptures (I Tim 5:1 ff) is about orderliness among God’s people in the first century church.
 
Dads that can care for their families while working from home, more power to you—dads that are freeloading on moms and hindering instead of helping, MAN UP! 

Peace,
Thomas

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Rites Inc.s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://positivepassage.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/spiritual-manhood/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spiritual Manhood&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an age when technology makes the impossible possible and the home the new office—dads that are working stay-at-home dads actually are benefitting their families. Just like when mom works in the home and is able to tend to the house and children throughout the day; the same holds true for dad.</p>
<p>For years I tried to get my employers to give me the flexibility to work from home at least two days a week (never happened) but my idea was: less stress, less money spent on gas, more productivity AND I could place a load of laundry in the wash and be home when my son got in from school (instead of coming home to an empty house).</p>
<p>Hagee’s statement about the scripture that says “worse than an infidel” is in the context of one that is able-bodied but refuses to work. A fuller contextual examination of those scriptures (I Tim 5:1 ff) is about orderliness among God’s people in the first century church.</p>
<p>Dads that can care for their families while working from home, more power to you—dads that are freeloading on moms and hindering instead of helping, MAN UP! </p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Thomas</p>
<p><abbr><em>Rites Inc.s last blog post..<a href="http://positivepassage.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/spiritual-manhood/" rel="nofollow">Spiritual Manhood</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok...that is not what I got from it at all.  He says that hell is your future IF ALL YOU DO IS SIT ON YOUR BACKSIDE AND LET YOUR WIFE SUPPORT YOU IN LIFE.  This is not a stay at home dad to my way of thinking, so I don&#039;t get this as a &quot;clear attack on stay at home dads.&quot;

And let me reiterate that there are plenty of me who stay at home who are NOT responsible, contributing members of the household.  I believe that this is who he is referring to.

I also don&#039;t believe that he is saying that it is laziness that is going to send you to hell.  I believe that he is saying that a father and husband who does not provide for their family is going to hell.  I think that there is a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok&#8230;that is not what I got from it at all.  He says that hell is your future IF ALL YOU DO IS SIT ON YOUR BACKSIDE AND LET YOUR WIFE SUPPORT YOU IN LIFE.  This is not a stay at home dad to my way of thinking, so I don&#8217;t get this as a &#8220;clear attack on stay at home dads.&#8221;</p>
<p>And let me reiterate that there are plenty of me who stay at home who are NOT responsible, contributing members of the household.  I believe that this is who he is referring to.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t believe that he is saying that it is laziness that is going to send you to hell.  I believe that he is saying that a father and husband who does not provide for their family is going to hell.  I think that there is a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Mocha Dad</title>
		<link>http://blackandmarriedwithkids.com/2009/03/04/stay-at-home-dads-are-going-to-hell/comment-page-1#comment-11760</link>
		<dc:creator>Mocha Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sasha 
Hagee was referring to Goliaths in people&#039;s lives. Here is his full quote relating to men who stay at home: &quot;For others its laziness, you&#039;re too lazy to work and support your children. I&#039;m talking about men. You call yourself Mr. Mom, God calls you a bum. St. Paul says you are worse than an infidel. Let me look you right in the eye and tell you that Hell is your future home if all you do is sit on your backside and let your wife support you in your life.&quot; His reference to &quot;Mr. Mom&quot; is a clear attack on men who stay at home with their children. I disagree with calling a man lazy just because he doesn&#039;t work outside the home. However, if men are actually lazy and refuse to accept the responsibility of working or caring for their children, then they are no worthy to be called men.

The other thing that bothers me about Hagee&#039;s statement is that he proclaims laziness as a reason to be sent to Hell. The Bible doesn&#039;t say this at all.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mocha Dads last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mochadad.com/2009/03/04/wednesday-wisdom-the-heart-of-a-father/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wednesday Wisdom - The Heart of a Father&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sasha<br />
Hagee was referring to Goliaths in people&#8217;s lives. Here is his full quote relating to men who stay at home: &#8220;For others its laziness, you&#8217;re too lazy to work and support your children. I&#8217;m talking about men. You call yourself Mr. Mom, God calls you a bum. St. Paul says you are worse than an infidel. Let me look you right in the eye and tell you that Hell is your future home if all you do is sit on your backside and let your wife support you in your life.&#8221; His reference to &#8220;Mr. Mom&#8221; is a clear attack on men who stay at home with their children. I disagree with calling a man lazy just because he doesn&#8217;t work outside the home. However, if men are actually lazy and refuse to accept the responsibility of working or caring for their children, then they are no worthy to be called men.</p>
<p>The other thing that bothers me about Hagee&#8217;s statement is that he proclaims laziness as a reason to be sent to Hell. The Bible doesn&#8217;t say this at all.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Mocha Dads last blog post..<a href="http://www.mochadad.com/2009/03/04/wednesday-wisdom-the-heart-of-a-father/" rel="nofollow">Wednesday Wisdom &#8211; The Heart of a Father</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LaKeysha

Right...so why are these clips put under this title?  I think it is unfortunate that with so much anger and drama in the world already, some feel the need to perpetuate and incite peoples&#039; emotions without validity.

@MochaDad

Can you help us out here?  I am having a hard time understanding this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LaKeysha</p>
<p>Right&#8230;so why are these clips put under this title?  I think it is unfortunate that with so much anger and drama in the world already, some feel the need to perpetuate and incite peoples&#8217; emotions without validity.</p>
<p>@MochaDad</p>
<p>Can you help us out here?  I am having a hard time understanding this</p>
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		<title>By: LaKeysha</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaKeysha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sasha

You are right.

When I actually heard the short clip I realized that he was saying something that I agreed with.

As I mentioned before it&#039;s not a problem if the family has arrangements that work for them but in so many situations I think we must all agree that many men have shirked their financial responsibilities.  And women have been FORCED to take up the slack of a lazy or absent man. These are the ones I think Haggee is talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sasha</p>
<p>You are right.</p>
<p>When I actually heard the short clip I realized that he was saying something that I agreed with.</p>
<p>As I mentioned before it&#8217;s not a problem if the family has arrangements that work for them but in so many situations I think we must all agree that many men have shirked their financial responsibilities.  And women have been FORCED to take up the slack of a lazy or absent man. These are the ones I think Haggee is talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I just watched the clip of Mars Hill Church, and again, I did not hear him say that stay at home dads are going to hell.  What I did hear him say is that his belief is that in the divine order of God in the Bible the women are more geared to raising the children, and that the dad&#039;s responsibility is to provide for his family and keep them safe.

He said that men need to take more responsibility- that our culture has made them soft, and that we live in a culture of shack up, break up and move on, which I don&#039;t disagree with.

Where are the clips of them saying that stay at home dads are going to hell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I just watched the clip of Mars Hill Church, and again, I did not hear him say that stay at home dads are going to hell.  What I did hear him say is that his belief is that in the divine order of God in the Bible the women are more geared to raising the children, and that the dad&#8217;s responsibility is to provide for his family and keep them safe.</p>
<p>He said that men need to take more responsibility- that our culture has made them soft, and that we live in a culture of shack up, break up and move on, which I don&#8217;t disagree with.</p>
<p>Where are the clips of them saying that stay at home dads are going to hell?</p>
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