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	<title>Comments on: Black Male-Female Relationships: Let’s End The Civil War</title>
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		<title>By: raw</title>
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		<dc:creator>raw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should there be any discussion of demographics here? I get incredibly tired of discussions of black relationships that are not attentive to incarceration or black poverty. Both of these things affect black relationship statistics.  And Bossman, I don&#039;t really know what to say to a such misogyny, except that you&#039;re the one who should get help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should there be any discussion of demographics here? I get incredibly tired of discussions of black relationships that are not attentive to incarceration or black poverty. Both of these things affect black relationship statistics.  And Bossman, I don&#8217;t really know what to say to a such misogyny, except that you&#8217;re the one who should get help.</p>
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		<title>By: Colette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 21:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bossman

???? Really...no really...lighten up. You obviously have a hard time with the term &#039;big picture&#039;. 

Here&#039;s an easier mission for you:

If you happen to have a daughter teach her what it means to be a lady. 
If she&#039;s in the room don&#039;t bark at the TV about how black women ain&#039;t worth your time.
If you have a co-worker or employee who is a single black woman - don&#039;t give her a free pass - but sympathize with her, give her that extra hour if she&#039;s honest to take care of an urgent (i said urgent) matter.
If you pass a black woman on the street give her the courtesy of a smile and a hello.
When you get home tell that daughter she&#039;s pretty and do the same for her mother.
When you do come across that &#039;strange women&#039; who&#039;s got a penchant for &#039;nigg..&#039;  remember she&#039;s got a story too...and so does that &#039;nigg..&#039;

These things don&#039;t require you to go out and get a woman not suited for you...and you can still do some good ( :</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bossman</p>
<p>???? Really&#8230;no really&#8230;lighten up. You obviously have a hard time with the term &#8216;big picture&#8217;. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an easier mission for you:</p>
<p>If you happen to have a daughter teach her what it means to be a lady.<br />
If she&#8217;s in the room don&#8217;t bark at the TV about how black women ain&#8217;t worth your time.<br />
If you have a co-worker or employee who is a single black woman &#8211; don&#8217;t give her a free pass &#8211; but sympathize with her, give her that extra hour if she&#8217;s honest to take care of an urgent (i said urgent) matter.<br />
If you pass a black woman on the street give her the courtesy of a smile and a hello.<br />
When you get home tell that daughter she&#8217;s pretty and do the same for her mother.<br />
When you do come across that &#8216;strange women&#8217; who&#8217;s got a penchant for &#8216;nigg..&#8217;  remember she&#8217;s got a story too&#8230;and so does that &#8216;nigg..&#8217;</p>
<p>These things don&#8217;t require you to go out and get a woman not suited for you&#8230;and you can still do some good ( :</p>
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		<title>By: Bossman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No man should accept unacceptable women. if these women are in pain they are not going to be good candidates for marriage or motherhood. He would better serve them by telling the to get therapy and work through their issues and become balanced whole human beings who are deserving of marriage. But as one can expect from a liberal mangina head shrink, he puts all the blame and burden on men, men who don&#039;t even know these women and never did anything personally to her. 

I can&#039;t make a woman act like a proper woman, she has to be willing to and I can&#039;t debase myself by committing to someone who is less than they should be. And i don&#039;t owe some strange woman anything. It&#039;s not my job to fix her or save her from herself. It&#039;s my job to follow my role as a man. To protect, provide and love. She has to be ready to accept that and all that comes with it, it comes with sacrifices on all sides. If she&#039;s not, too bad, men don&#039;t need a fixer upper. Don&#039;t fall for foolishness just cause it sounds good. Everything that glitters.

There is a civil war, but it&#039;s the one chris rock talked about. Black men and niggas. Or as white guys would say, nice guys and badboys. Women want to lay with niggas and then want black men to come marry them.  Not gonna happen.  Women want to be niggas baby&#039;s mamas but want to be Black men&#039;s wives. Not gonna happen.  We smell the taint of niggerism on ya and we don&#039;t want any of it. Niggas scarred you up, but you want black men to try to fix you up. You are responsible for your own actions. Take responsibility for that instead of always calling black men irresponsible. You know he wasn&#039;t shit when you laid down with him and now you want to dog all black men? Please, we aren&#039;t falling for that anymore. We look you squarely in the eye and reject that.   Stop sleeping with worthless niggas and you might find a black man.  Get some therapy.  Get some help. Find balance, peace, and happiness, then you&#039;ll find a decent man.  Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No man should accept unacceptable women. if these women are in pain they are not going to be good candidates for marriage or motherhood. He would better serve them by telling the to get therapy and work through their issues and become balanced whole human beings who are deserving of marriage. But as one can expect from a liberal mangina head shrink, he puts all the blame and burden on men, men who don&#8217;t even know these women and never did anything personally to her. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t make a woman act like a proper woman, she has to be willing to and I can&#8217;t debase myself by committing to someone who is less than they should be. And i don&#8217;t owe some strange woman anything. It&#8217;s not my job to fix her or save her from herself. It&#8217;s my job to follow my role as a man. To protect, provide and love. She has to be ready to accept that and all that comes with it, it comes with sacrifices on all sides. If she&#8217;s not, too bad, men don&#8217;t need a fixer upper. Don&#8217;t fall for foolishness just cause it sounds good. Everything that glitters.</p>
<p>There is a civil war, but it&#8217;s the one chris rock talked about. Black men and niggas. Or as white guys would say, nice guys and badboys. Women want to lay with niggas and then want black men to come marry them.  Not gonna happen.  Women want to be niggas baby&#8217;s mamas but want to be Black men&#8217;s wives. Not gonna happen.  We smell the taint of niggerism on ya and we don&#8217;t want any of it. Niggas scarred you up, but you want black men to try to fix you up. You are responsible for your own actions. Take responsibility for that instead of always calling black men irresponsible. You know he wasn&#8217;t shit when you laid down with him and now you want to dog all black men? Please, we aren&#8217;t falling for that anymore. We look you squarely in the eye and reject that.   Stop sleeping with worthless niggas and you might find a black man.  Get some therapy.  Get some help. Find balance, peace, and happiness, then you&#8217;ll find a decent man.  Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: PermanentlyScarred</title>
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		<dc:creator>PermanentlyScarred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgive you black men for what you&#039;ve done.... but not for what you will do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgive you black men for what you&#8217;ve done&#8230;. but not for what you will do.</p>
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		<title>By: Thuso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thuso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am amazed that there is so much buy-in to the &quot;combatants&quot; mentality when discussing relationships between Black men and Black women. I suppose that the &quot;battle of the sexes&quot; is not unique to our condition or ehnic group.  However, our solutions must be unique due to our unique circumstances.

I found this observation to be quite illustrative: I find the premise of this article very odd. The number of 2 parent homes does not determine the state of emergency in the relationship between black men and women. 

The writer talks about &quot;2 parent homes&quot; in relation to the &quot;state of emergency.  Later, the writer (VEe!) states, &quot;The decline of matrimony in America has been on decline for several reasons.&quot;

Perhaps we can assume that &quot;2 parent homes&quot; and &quot;matrimony&quot; are interchangeable, but the use of the current day term &quot;2 parent home&quot; is an indicator that 2 individuals who are parents are in the same place.  The inference of &quot;matrimony&quot; suggests, at least to me, a &quot;union&quot; of a man and woman committed to providing a home for their children.

We no longer think about unions, but terms of interaction for combatants -- with battles over child-support, &quot;dead-beat dad&quot; designations, visitation rights, etc.

These formal battle lines are re-enforced in the background by the stereotypical battles between brothers and sisters that inevitably follow the posturing and war dancing that goes on before consensual sex.  After that first encounter, the battle is on!  

Sadly, there is no winner.  Worse, there are few truces called to work out peace terms.  Only casualties (collateral damage) -- spelled CHILDREN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed that there is so much buy-in to the &#8220;combatants&#8221; mentality when discussing relationships between Black men and Black women. I suppose that the &#8220;battle of the sexes&#8221; is not unique to our condition or ehnic group.  However, our solutions must be unique due to our unique circumstances.</p>
<p>I found this observation to be quite illustrative: I find the premise of this article very odd. The number of 2 parent homes does not determine the state of emergency in the relationship between black men and women. </p>
<p>The writer talks about &#8220;2 parent homes&#8221; in relation to the &#8220;state of emergency.  Later, the writer (VEe!) states, &#8220;The decline of matrimony in America has been on decline for several reasons.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps we can assume that &#8220;2 parent homes&#8221; and &#8220;matrimony&#8221; are interchangeable, but the use of the current day term &#8220;2 parent home&#8221; is an indicator that 2 individuals who are parents are in the same place.  The inference of &#8220;matrimony&#8221; suggests, at least to me, a &#8220;union&#8221; of a man and woman committed to providing a home for their children.</p>
<p>We no longer think about unions, but terms of interaction for combatants &#8212; with battles over child-support, &#8220;dead-beat dad&#8221; designations, visitation rights, etc.</p>
<p>These formal battle lines are re-enforced in the background by the stereotypical battles between brothers and sisters that inevitably follow the posturing and war dancing that goes on before consensual sex.  After that first encounter, the battle is on!  </p>
<p>Sadly, there is no winner.  Worse, there are few truces called to work out peace terms.  Only casualties (collateral damage) &#8212; spelled CHILDREN.</p>
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		<title>By: SirCharles</title>
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		<dc:creator>SirCharles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you only making this seem like the &quot;Brothers&quot; fault? What about our irresponsible Sisters choosing those types of Brothers who don&#039;t have respect or love for them? Sisters should take the majority of the blame, for reproducing irresponsibly with immature/superficial Brothers (when there are more mature/genuine options available), and then somehow want to place the blame on the Brother when he leaves the for BEING HIMSELF! It&#039;s like, these Sisters KNOW FROM JUMP STREET that the Brother won&#039;t commit, but still delude themselves into thinking that pregnancy (unprotected sex) will basically FORCE him to change his ways and be a responsible man.

Stop giving it up so easy (to undeserving Brothers). The Brothers who love you won&#039;t pressure you into doing something against your will (they&#039;re usually more patient/calm), while the Brothers who are only looking out FOR THEMSELVES will want it immediately on the spot (and it&#039;s up to you to choose not to give it to them, because they won&#039;t respect you if you do because they &quot;try&quot; that same tactic with EVERY OTHER SISTER). You are usually just another pawn in their game, so please don&#039;t fall for it.

If Sisters would save themselves for marriage, I guarantee the right Brothers will see this and respect you for it (shows self-restraint/control, which is good for a long-term relationship/marriage), while the more short-term/casual/&quot;friends with benefits&quot; Brothers (with Sisters on the side) will criticize/demean/disrespect you. So it is &quot;imperative&quot; that you value yourself highly, because they love to use peer-pressure/manipulation/deceit on those with low self-esteem/self-worth to get what they want.

Conclusion: YOU CAN&#039;T CHANGE A IMMATURE BOY INTO A LOVING FATHER, HE HAS TO SHOW THOSE TRAITS BEFOREHAND (and you can either act/hop on it or just overlook it, your choice).

Just my two cents..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you only making this seem like the &#8220;Brothers&#8221; fault? What about our irresponsible Sisters choosing those types of Brothers who don&#8217;t have respect or love for them? Sisters should take the majority of the blame, for reproducing irresponsibly with immature/superficial Brothers (when there are more mature/genuine options available), and then somehow want to place the blame on the Brother when he leaves the for BEING HIMSELF! It&#8217;s like, these Sisters KNOW FROM JUMP STREET that the Brother won&#8217;t commit, but still delude themselves into thinking that pregnancy (unprotected sex) will basically FORCE him to change his ways and be a responsible man.</p>
<p>Stop giving it up so easy (to undeserving Brothers). The Brothers who love you won&#8217;t pressure you into doing something against your will (they&#8217;re usually more patient/calm), while the Brothers who are only looking out FOR THEMSELVES will want it immediately on the spot (and it&#8217;s up to you to choose not to give it to them, because they won&#8217;t respect you if you do because they &#8220;try&#8221; that same tactic with EVERY OTHER SISTER). You are usually just another pawn in their game, so please don&#8217;t fall for it.</p>
<p>If Sisters would save themselves for marriage, I guarantee the right Brothers will see this and respect you for it (shows self-restraint/control, which is good for a long-term relationship/marriage), while the more short-term/casual/&#8221;friends with benefits&#8221; Brothers (with Sisters on the side) will criticize/demean/disrespect you. So it is &#8220;imperative&#8221; that you value yourself highly, because they love to use peer-pressure/manipulation/deceit on those with low self-esteem/self-worth to get what they want.</p>
<p>Conclusion: YOU CAN&#8217;T CHANGE A IMMATURE BOY INTO A LOVING FATHER, HE HAS TO SHOW THOSE TRAITS BEFOREHAND (and you can either act/hop on it or just overlook it, your choice).</p>
<p>Just my two cents..</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this article and I agree with it as well.  I also like what butterflyprincess said about treating each other as individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this article and I agree with it as well.  I also like what butterflyprincess said about treating each other as individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reconstruction of Black America &#124; Black And Married With Kids</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reconstruction of Black America &#124; Black And Married With Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dr. Shane Perrault wrote an article about the Civil War  between black men and women in America.  The issues we face as a people were made painfully [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Dr. Shane Perrault wrote an article about the Civil War  between black men and women in America.  The issues we face as a people were made painfully [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VEe!</title>
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		<dc:creator>VEe!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;It’s like we believed all the hype and then live it.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;
- butterflyprincess 

I couldn&#039;t say it better myself. Many popular culture cliches and memes are accepted as social norms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;It’s like we believed all the hype and then live it.&#8221; </i><br />
- butterflyprincess </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t say it better myself. Many popular culture cliches and memes are accepted as social norms.</p>
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		<title>By: dantresomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>dantresomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Male privilege and sexism is the problem we men folk have...

and keeping a patriarchal religion out of the equation will help as well.

we need to stop giving rewards to mediocrity and defending depravity and degenerate habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Male privilege and sexism is the problem we men folk have&#8230;</p>
<p>and keeping a patriarchal religion out of the equation will help as well.</p>
<p>we need to stop giving rewards to mediocrity and defending depravity and degenerate habits.</p>
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