Gwen’s Journey: Finding a “Good” Man

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I know I’m supposed to be posting updates on my wedding planning, but I have a little something to say about all this nonsense I’ve been hearing/reading/seeing about the divide between black women and black men in the media lately. Bare with me, as this might get kind of long.

I am so sick of the media pitting black women against black men and us allowing ourselves to succumb to such nonesense. The fact is that the two most unmarried demographics in America are black women and Asian men. Yet, I don’t see the media holding roundtable discussions on national news shows to “explore” why Asian women may be increasingly marrying other races due to a lack of “good Asian men”. Furthermore, I have yet to see the same discussions on why white women have just as hard of a time finding a good man. These shows only focus on the “plight” of African Americans. Women of all races, for decades, have complained about how hard it is to find a good man, not just a good black man. This is not a “black” issue…it’s a human issue. We have got stop being so quick to believe the images and stories that are shown.

The first order of business is that we have to 1. stop allowing these “specials” to occur by ceasing our participation in them and 2. stop watching them and falling for the crap. The Macombs and Shaw theory of agenda setting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda-setting_theory) tells us that media doesn’t tell us what to think outright, but it does tell us what to think about. So if we incessantly hear about how there are no good black men, how all the good ones are incarcerated, how black women have to turn to other races for companionship, etc., we begin to think about these things, and thus the agenda has been set for us, thereby inadvertently, telling us what to think. Come on people, we’ve got to get smarter.

I have never in my life had a problem finding a “good black man”. I have had boyfriends aplenty and dated regularly, and I have never ever dated a “bad black man”. If a woman chooses to settle for a man who lacks character, it doesn’t matter if he’s black, white, blue or green…that is her fault and her fault alone. Have I had bad relationships? Of course, who hasn’t? But the men themselves weren’t bad people; they just weren’t good for me. Despite many men (not just black men) being in jail, I find it hard to believe I am an anomaly when it comes to a woman finding a good black man.

Perhaps I had the advantage of seeing what a good man is all my life. My father and I have never once had a “birds and bees” conversation. He has only given me one piece of advice when it comes to men and that one piece of advice was all that was needed. He said, “If your man can’t treat you just as well or better than I do, you need to find another man who can.” True that.

Since when does a “good man” mean that he has a degree? And since when has someone’s ability to be the man of his household been determined by how fat his pockets are?

Let me explain something here: anybody can get a degree. And this is coming from someone who has a bachelor’s and dual master’s degrees. Provided you are financially able to tackle the number of years it takes to get that piece of paper and you can keep your grades up enough not to get kicked out, getting a degree isn’t difficult. And anyone who has gone through college at least once knows that a college degree does not guarantee you financial stability once you have walked across that stage. I hear my girls gripe all the time about how they can’t find a black man with a degree. And? Bill Gates didn’t graduate and I don’t see Melinda complaining one bit. It might increase one’s earning power, but earning power and actually earning are two different things. Ask anyone who has been laid off due to the economy.

This is not to discount any of us who spent the extensive time and energy required to obtain a post-secondary education, but a degree does not make a man.The better assessment of a man is: what is that man going to do to provide for his family and his woman? I know quite a few men (black, white, Asian and Hispanic) who have degrees but are currently unable to find a job in his field due to the poor economy. And many of those men’s egos are unwilling to let them take a lesser paying position, because they have degrees and, therefore, feel entitled to a higher paying position. Now, that to me does not constitute a good man. In my opinion, a man does what he has to do, within legal and moral limits, to get where he needs to go and take care of his woman and his family. Additionally, someone’s level of intellect is not determined by their number of degrees, or lack thereof. If a man can start a business, run it and make it successful, that itself tells me a lot more about their smarts and drive, than the fact that someone may have attended four classes a day for four years in order to obtain an expensive piece of paper.

Likewise, I hear women saying they have to find a brother who makes six figures, yet, they don’t even make six figures themselves. What kind of crap is that? And just who do they think they are to list demands that they don’t even meet? Moreover, money is fleeting. That man making six figures could easily get laid off next week and be relying on unemployment. What do these ladies expect to do in such a scenario? Leave him and find another six figure man to take care of them? A person can be blessed enough to have his/her steps ordered in such a way where they make a lot of money. What they do with that money is more important, and again, another true test of what a real man is. Does he make 90k a year and have no investments, no home of his own, but has lot of fly gear and a sweet vacation twice a year? A real man knows how to handle his money…whether he makes 25k a year or 250k a year. I know men who make well over six figures, but have nothing to show for it other than clothes and cars. Conversely, I know men who make less than 50k a year and are cleaning up in the stock market.

My issue is that so many black women focus on the current and what’s on the surface. We always hear women say “I need a man with good credit”, “I need a man with a good job”. What about “I need a man with good character”? He can buy you the sun and moon but if he’s cheating and beating on you, all the degrees and money in the world aren’t going to compensate. Think about this: Michelle was the breadwinner of the Obama family for the first ten years of their marriage. Personally, if I have to be, I don’t mind being the breadwinner. It’s all going to the same household anyway. I once read a quote by Mrs. O in which she was asked for dating advice for women. She said, “Pay closer attention to what’s in his heart than what’s in his wallet.”
Here’s what a good man entails for me: compassion, charity, faith, drive, resilience, respect for his mother (trust, if he calls his momma out of her name, you aren’t far behind), respect for others, patience, tolerance, the ability and willingness to teach and be taught, and puts me before himself. I can go on and on, but no where in my list will you find that a man has to have a degree and a Swiss bank account to win my affections.

I don’t need any man’s money, I have my own. But I am not silly enough to say I don’t need a man. (Think about it: when have you ever heard a man say he doesn’t need a woman? Never. Men don’t say such absurdities; that’s something we women preach to one another.) Being independent and needing someone are mutually exclusive. I make my own money, I can take care of me all by myself. But I most definitely need my fiancé’s love. He is the butter to my bread and I know I have a “good” man who meets the criteria my father laid out for me. Any money he has or degree he may hold has absolutely nothing to do with why I am with him. Likewise, any money he doesn’t have or degree he may not hold would have never kept me from being with him. His character and his drive are more valuable than anything. I once didn’t want to work at an old job. I hated the place. I called him one day from that job, fed up. He told me to quit; that he would hold us down and I could freelance from home if I wanted. That if he needed to, he would get second job to make up the difference. Just like that. Now, that may sound silly to some people, but to me, that let me know I have a man who 1. supports me 2. finds my happiness to be vital to our happiness and 3. he will do what he has to do to take care of us.

Now, that to me is a sign of a good man and I thank God each day that I have one.

Gwen is a social media and corporate communications professional on staff at one of America’s largest corporations. She blogs about social media marketing and networking at http://www.gwenpeake.com.

About the author

Lamar and Ronnie Tyler are the creators of the award-winning blog BlackandMarriedWithKids.com . They also are behind the Amazon.com bestselling DVDs Happily Ever After: A Positive Image of Black Marriage, You Saved Me and Men Ain’t Boys that explores manhood in the African American community. The Tylers are also the proud parents of four children.



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  1. Tara Friday - 19 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    I love this. (Especially love the part about your man being there for you, offering to get a second job. My husband would've been like, "Um, I hate my job, too. Suck it up. We need money - these kids ain't cheap!" LOL.) I've found that the old adage is true. You can't find love until you love yourself first. I found my husband when I was in the depths of depression and low self-esteem. It's only by the grace of God that he stuck around long enough for me to get my stuff together, and now we enjoy a healthy, thriving relationship that is built on mutual respect and sincere love. We need to simply work on ourselves. Figure out what is important to us, besides those fleeting values that can change in the blink of an instant. I do love the Michelle Obama example because on their first date, (President) Obama picked her up in his car that had a hole in the floor. How many women would have bounced? But it's important to look inside someone's heart, like she suggested. My husband has the biggest heart of anyone I know. He's incredibly helpful and kind and he is very soft-spoken and thoughtful. He doesn't get loud and he goes get angry. Always very Zen. He doesn't wear flashy clothes and he has no vices (well, except for a nasty Lakers addiction). He treats me the way my father treated me and he treats me the way I hope my daughter's husband treats her. We're friends, first and foremost. When something happens to me, he's the first person I call because he's the first person to come to mind. That's dope. Okay, I've written a novel (crap) and I think I veered off topic in so many places so I'll just close out with this: Love yourself first, look for a man with admirable qualities that are deeply embedded into this character and for goodness sakes' stay positive! :) .-= Tara´s last blog ..at what point does a girl become a woman? =-.
  2. Ronnie Friday - 19 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    WELL SAID GWEN!!! Tara - you are so right...I always believed that it is about attitude, staying positive, and working on your self.
  3. Kisha Friday - 19 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    All I have to say is, " GIRL! You betta say it! "
  4. Crystal Friday - 19 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    My sentiments exactly. I know firsthand the thoughts behind this piece. I'm single myself and I tell everyone all the time when these issues come up, "I am not defined or controlled by statistics." Coincidentally, my dad told me the same thing growing up. Always be with someone who treats you how I treat you or better.....it's all about standards. I've learned through the years it's about the heart and spirit of a person not any outer factors because they can always change for good or bad. Thanks for this. God bless.
  5. Jonesi Friday - 19 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    Thank you for this eloquent reality check! I have been preaching for so long now "Character over credit cards". It's imperative for women to look beyond the material exterior and really take time to assess for themselves what they really need from a partner. It all boils down to self-esteem and priorities. As Tara said, you have to love yourself first. It's SO very important. I too dated my husband during very dark stages in our lives, but the fact that we stood by one another when times were hard was confirmation enough to know that we were a good fit to navigate this life as one and that with each other's love and support, there was nothing we couldn't accomplish and overcome. Here's the thing, as a very young girl (I would say 18-20), I encounted many men in my life that many would have considered were better catches than my now husband. We were undergrads when we met, and I got alot of flack for paying for dinner dates because he couldn't always afford it, spending time with his then daughter and dealing with baby-mama drama, etc., and I contemplated whether I had made the wrong decisison to stick by and with him. BUT, I knew his heart, and I benefited from his love and I had to decide that my acceptance of him was enough because I knew he had great potential and solid character. Here we are five years later, married, and blessed to have each other. Had I assessed him based on societal standards of what men SHOULD have and SHOULD be doing, then I would have missed out on a man that would end up surpassing all expectations of those that hated on him in the first place. Oh and like Obama , his car was BUSTED too! LOL...priorities ladies, priorites...don't pass a good man up because of what he doesn't have, snatch him for yourself, support and build him up, and create your on TRUE "Happily Ever After". A man should never be defined by his possessions alone....and turn off the dang TV and stop buying into this mess. You're making the media's job way too easy.... GREAT JOB GWEN! :-)
  6. Mari Friday - 19 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    I agree 100%, well said!!
  7. Ananda Leeke Saturday - 20 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    Thank you Gwen for sharing your thoughts. You said it all. Many blessings to you and your fiance. We missed you at the Blogalicious DC Meet-Up. Sending you lots of Blogalicious sistalove! Peace and Joy, Ananda
  8. busybodyk Saturday - 20 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    Church!
  9. Candis Sunday - 21 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    Very well said, Gwen! All the hype about Black men and women not being able to find love together makes this website ultra-special. We are examples that Black men and women do live together, love together, marry each other, and raise happy families together. Hats off to us!!!
  10. Rozy Sunday - 21 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    Gwen, Wonderfuly said, GOD bless you and good luck!
  11. Lex Tuesday - 23 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    The main problem with many women with regards to "Finding a Good Man" is our unrealistic, romanticised and idealistic notions of love. The media feeds women negative ideologies relating to themselves such getting married and having children within a specfic timescale (before 30 yrs) and most of these images are of European women who the world has defined as only representation of women. As we have internalisation these images, women seem to want the perfect WEDDING,then HOUSE, then CHILDREN and to cap it off the IH (Ideal Husband). A DASHING man comprised of a degree and Post grad, high earnings and the list goes on and on. Many suitable men are being overlooked and undervalued e.g. the blue collar workers, skilled manual workers.....why because they don't fit the characterisation of the token man. This piece has highlighted how deeply we are effected and influenced by all that the media has been offering, that the BLACK LOVE cannot and will not exist, what a lie! I read this blog feverishly and I am touched all the married/loved up folks that comment. For those of you who have yet to meet that special man, please don't pass up on fellas who don't meet all your requirements. At least give him a chance, you never know what a brother might have been saving, for a wonderful woman like you!
  12. Gwen Tuesday - 23 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    Thanks for the love, everybody! .-= Gwen´s last blog ..Personal Celeb Endorsement of the Day =-.
  13. TCB Thursday - 25 / 02 / 2010 Reply
    Now, that's THE TRUTH!!!
  14. TKNY Saturday - 13 / 03 / 2010 Reply
    Deep! Yes we as black women canNOT feed into these myths. We must manifest our truths, and not live according to someone else's "rules" or list of qualifications. It's so funny, I read a book named "WHY the HEll can't I FIND a GOOD Man?" by Author, Michael Eric Markland; who basically spoke truth to this very topic. If we women know ourselves, we will attract mirrors of ourselves. I strive to be my best self & I believe God has blessed me with my equal. I am so pleased & supportive of this site & movement to highlight, & celebrate healthy black realationships. Great article!
  15. michael eric markland Saturday - 13 / 03 / 2010 Reply
    Great piece Gwen, very well articulated and extremely relevant commentary for other women to see and hear.... I want to offer a small excert to this discussion ... ..."Why is it that some women have such a hard time finding one good man and others have their pick of the litter? Is it pedigree? Is it just luck? Is it charisma? Are some women in possession of special skills or knowledge yet undiscovered by others? Could it be a conscious effort on the part some females to cultivate certain skills and character traits, in preparation to attract a suitable partner? Is it possible that some women are just better prepared and, thus, attract more opportunities? Do you find the idea to be somewhat sexist? Or, could you allow yourself to think for a moment that there might be some credibility in this argument? Would you consider it? At best, this is a very complicated phenomenon. There has to be as many answers to these questions as there are different types of women. Some of you may agree; some of you may not. However, it is worthwhile considering, if even for a moment. The primal urge of Mother Nature, in her bid to ensure procreation, stirs in each woman at different stages of her emotional growth. This mating impulse can be maddening to some women, yet welcome and wonderful to others. Your state of emotional readiness must somehow logically play a part in your actions. I suppose it has to have an effect on how you conduct yourself in the search for a life-mate.... " Taken from "Why The Hell Can't I Find A Good Man" from a man's point of view...Chapter 1 page 15 Hope it helps
  16. The Tall One Saturday - 20 / 03 / 2010 Reply
    I have chosen to travel the world as a photographer, teacher and writer. I am currently based in Asia. What I read online about the plight of Black love in the U.S. would be disheartening if it weren't for the fact that I have caring, loving, hard-working Black men in my family, in my circle of friends, etc. I will definitely share this with some of friends. Gwen, thank you for writing and sharing this post. Wishing you and your future husband all of the best. Keep love alive! Ciao! Felicia
  17. Gina Tuesday - 18 / 05 / 2010 Reply
    Very Well Said!!!
  18. Gina Tuesday - 18 / 05 / 2010 Reply
    My mother has always told me "A real man gives from his heart and not his pockets because there are some things that money just can't buy."
  19. Chenell Wednesday - 21 / 07 / 2010 Reply
    I could not have said it better myself!

    I have been married twelve years to a wonderful family man who loves God . He earned his MBA before we married and during our marriage he has had great jobs with high income AND he has also been laid off three times making nothing but unemployment (due to situations beyond his control). Never once did I look down on him because of his reduced income, because I know we are a team, and during those times I needed to step up my earnings to make do-- just as he did for me when I wanted to stay home when our kids were young. Real relationships take team work , patience and compassion. Money comes and goes. Looks fade. Lust wanes.

    I believe so many young women do not know to look for a man who is marriage minded, kind, morally upright and is a natural provider. Instead, many focus on the romantic rush, good looks and flash.

    More of us would be married if we recognized that character is more sustainable.